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Mouvement Action Justice: Suckers?

In Uncategorized on April 25, 2011 at 11:22 am

American Universalist P.T. Barnum is famous for saying ‘There’s a sucker born every minute.’  Robin Edgar has certainly has his share.  He has often fooled others into buying into his endless complaints of ‘abuse’ by the Unitarian Church of Montreal and others.

His latest mark?  Montreal’s independent police watchdog group, Mouvement Action Justice, which let loose with his latest claims of abuse against the Montreal Police.

Apparently, the MAJ did not do its homework.  If they had, then they would have easily discovered that Robin Edgar’s ‘peaceful public protest’ is just a thin disguise for a campaign of vitriolic harassment.  They would have also found that the minister against which he complaints yet again, Reverend Ray Drennan, had left the church many years ago.

Then again, it could be that the MAJ simply accepts any and all complaints of ‘police abuse’ at face value, without ever checking their credibility.  Perhaps there is somebody in Montreal who can shed light on their history.

Even so, if the MAJ is indeed reliable, and they decide to look into the facts before following through with Robin Edgar’s ‘case’, we may find them moved to another list of individuals and groups – the ones who learned the hard way that this man is never satisfied with anything less than unquestioned support of everything he says and does, no matter how outlandish and inexcusable.

We can only wait and see how this plays out, as with the other melodramas created by this poor, disturbed man.

Another Robin Edgar?

In Uncategorized on April 6, 2011 at 5:11 am

We received this comment from a reader, and took some time considering whether to post it.  Like the individual who wrote it, we’re not offering any specific diagnosis of Robin Edgar, or anybody who behaves in such a similar manner.  But it is definitely food for thought…

I found your site doing a search on other topics, then later did some more searches and reading.  I did so because my spiritual community has faced someone very much like him.  I am a Quaker, and our local unprogrammed meeting was once disrupted by a woman who came into our midst.  Her second time attending Meeting, one of our members was moved to speak, and she interrupted him as though it were a secular discussion or debate.  The Clerk and another member took her aside to explain why her actions were not appropriate, and her immediate response was to scream at them in anger before storming out.  Later she would apologize, and we welcomed her back amongst us.  She would float in and out of Meeting, sometimes kind and joyful, but many times consumed with rage and pain.  Her spoken testimony became more and more disturbing, and soon we were moved to form a committee to intervene, of which I was called to be a member.  Our motivation was concern for her emotional and spiritual well-being, not just how her behavior was adversely effecting the members of Meeting.  Her response was so extreme, and the effects so trying to all of us, that I and other members of the committee felt compelled to advise her against coming to Meeting in the future.  It was not a happy decision, but when we considered the effects of her presence amongst us, and her recalcitrance as we attempted to show her how her words and actions affected us, we felt there was no other choice open to us.  This was followed by a barrage of angry letters, sometimes threatening, repeatedly accusing us of hypocrisy and abuse (much as Mr. Edgar is now accusing of Unitarians).  She even attempted to contact our Yearly Meeting in an effort to “go over our heads” but after other Friends listened to both sides, they concluded her complaints were (to put it kindly) without merit.  It was not until many years later that we received a letter of apology from her, after she had begun treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder and other related issues.  She is still in our prayers, and we hope as always for healing and reconciliation over time.  I pray this poor man, and your church, finds the same healing spirit.

Our thanks to this friend for sharing this story.  We hope Robin Edgar takes this message to heart.

Goo-Goo for Google Hits

In Uncategorized on April 6, 2011 at 3:39 am

We’ve remarked about Robin Edgar’s fixation with Google hits.  When he has nothing else to write about, he checks what Google hits he has and reports them as news, even when it’s just a single hit from who-knows-where.

He’s been doing that a considerable amount recently, and one of our readers has speculated as to why…

‘Ever notice how few comments there are on the Emerson Avenger?  Like people gloss over his lengthy rants and just shut it off?’

Perhaps that’s why he’s so ‘Goo-goo’ over Google hits.  It’s another convenient way of manufacturing attention.  ‘See, see, see – all these people looking for bad, bad things about Big Fat U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisies!’  So when one individual does one search which leads to his site, he feels it’s worth posting about on his blog.  Of course, for all he knows, that individual took one look at his site, saw how bitterly it exaggerates and distorts things – and how self-centered his view of the world – and moved on.

Unfortunately, Robin Edgar still has not learned to move on.  He hunts incessantly for anything and everything which could be seen as a black mark on Unitarian Universalism.  He says he does not hate us as a whole … so why has he never ever said anything positive?  Why devote so much time and energy to trying to destroy and discredit an entire religious denomination?

Unitarian Universalism has endured worse attacks for generations.  What is tragic is the harm to individuals – not only those who have become targets of his vicious ad-hominem attacks, but Mister Edgar himself, for wasting so much time and energy on such a destructive course, when he could have done something positive and healthy with his passion and skills.  All we can do is hope and pray that he turns his life around, with the help and guidance he needs to overcome his obsessions and dysfunctions.

Unhealthy Obsession Indeed

In Uncategorized on April 3, 2011 at 10:22 am

One of our readers has reported that he has tracked the origin of Robin Edgar’s Internet activity:

the IP listed is Bibliotheque Nationale Du Quebec.

Indeed, this is the provincial library for Quebec, and their website shows that, like other public libraries, they offer free Internet service.  As our reader speculates:

if he’s accessing the internet through the library these days, that might mean he’s now unemployed- which would explain how he has time for all this. And why he’s been extra bitter lately, too.

Now, when most people lose a job, they devote their time to finding a new one.  Instead, Robin Edgar appears to be increasing his lashing out at Unitarian Universalist.  Does he actually believe this will get him gainful employment?

An alternative explanation is that he actually works at the library … and is doing his anti-UU blogging, commenting and web-surfing while on the job.  Not likely, however, as most large employers tend to monitor their personnel’s computer activity these days.

Either way, we have a question for Mister Edgar.   How can you continue to insist that you are not obsessed?  Only an obsessed individual would spend more time online lashing out in anger at so many individuals instead of finding gainful employment and moving on with your life.  Only an obsessed individual would engage in such behaviour while on the clock, placing their employment status in jeopary.

This is not the behaviour of a healthy individual.  You need to move on with your life, sir.  Rather than dwell on the ‘wrongs’ which you constantly allege have been done against you, or claiming to be some righteous crusader while behaving like a rage-filled stalker, the time is long overdue for you to let go.  You say that you are a spiritual man, Mister Edgar.  The great spiritual traditions of the world call for forgiveness of wrongs, whether perceived or real.  Why are you so unable to embrace this virtue?

Get help, Mister Edgar.  We implore you once again.  Putting this campaign of rancor and bitterness above earning a decent wage makes no sense, and cannot lead to anything good for you.

What Would Robin Edgar Have Us Believe?

In Uncategorized on April 3, 2011 at 10:11 am

A careful reading of his ‘Emerson Avenger’ blog would show, first and foremost, that Robin Edgar would want everybody who reads him to follow an outlandish form of black-and-white thinking.

First, Anything bad said about Unitarian Universalists must be true.  So, if one person on an obscure chat list claims that UUs are ‘anti-Christian’, then it must be automatically accepted as true, regardless of the source.  The person could be a diagnosed paranoid, and the claim an example is his or her delusions – it does not matter.  If the saying is about UUs, and it is negative, then Robin Edgar would have us believe that it is true.

Second, Anything bad said about Unitarian Universalists must apply to all Unitarian Universalists.  If a person states that the UUs he or she encountered were ‘anti-Christian’ (and again, there is no need to present facts to bolster the claim – see above) then Robin Edgar believes this should be rightly used to lambaste all of the hundreds of thousands of UUs across the continent.  We could be talking about one individual’s one encounter with one person claiming to be a UU – it does not matter.  Anything negative said about UUs can be used to make all UUs look bad.

Robin Edgar turned his single-minded grudge against one UU minister into a lengthy war of words and outlandish behaviour.  He alienated and frightened the members of his congregation so much, that after a year and a half of exasperating attempts to work with him, they told him to leave.  He has been banned from blogs and online discussion lists for his attacks and insults, not to mention his obsessive need to make any and every conversation about him and how badly he (feels he was) treated.

Robin Edgar would have us believe that his is a righteous cause.  How so?  How is lashing out against Unitarian Universalists who have done nothing to hurt – indeed, nothing at all to you – anything but self-righteous?  How is refusing to forgive and move on, for almost two decades now, in any way healthy or constructive?

Mister Edgar, you need help.  We have said it before, and others have said it, and we will keep saying it until you seek the professional help you need and find a way to move on with your life.

Anything New on the ‘Emerson Avenger’ Blog?

In Uncategorized on April 2, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Not really.

Just more of the same angry rants from Robin Edgar.  More of his attempting to show how he is always right and ‘Big Fat U*U Ass Hats’ are always wrong.

Of course, he does not show how we, or any other UUs who question or disagree with him, are actually WRONG.  He even admits that he has no evidence that a UU blogger labeled all Republicans as mean people … and yet, he continues to say the same things, over and over, accusing anybody who dares to challenge his view of reality as ‘outrageously hypocritical,’ while wilfully ignoring his own hypocrisy of criticising others of engaging in the very behaviour of which he himself is guilty.

We have heard this all before, Mister Edgar, for years now.  Are you even capable of admitting to being wrong or mistaken about anything?  You keep demanding apologies from so many UUs.  Are you even capable of apologising for the hurt that you have caused, and continue to cause?  Or is your state of mind so warped that you cannot ever see it, and cannot even forgive?